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« on: December 16, 2017, 07:55:24 AM »

Hi All -

Just one of many questions to come.

So, my 70 is a Stock 318, with 154,00. When I posted on here before, Alaskan_TA commented on how nice it was to see a 318 still intact. That got me thinking. My son mentioned maybe swapping the engine in the future to a 383, but I sort of am on the side of rebuilding the 318, and in such a way that it will have a little more OOMPH than it does now.

My question - I know numbers matching is preferable, but is a '70 500 with a 318 going to lose "value" by swapping out the engine? I mean 50%  of these came with 318's so there were a ton made, but I rarely see one anymore, because I think everyone tore theirs out!

What's anyones thoughts on this? I know it's "up to me", but I'm curious to see what anyones' thoughts are. Is it a bad idea to swap out this engine? I have ni plans to sell it , but wondering if this would be something I'd regret doing in the "future"?

Thanks!

Bonus Photo: Here is the car hidden in the garage when we got it after it's 7 year sleep,

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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2017, 08:29:31 AM »

The more original, the cooler to see.

The value of it 'intact' can not be measured in dollars as much as it can in appreciation.

I walk right past modified cars to look at intact originals.
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2017, 09:46:20 AM »

Thanks, Alaskan -

I agree 100% - I do the same - modified does not interest me either! Thank you!

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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2017, 10:21:18 AM »

To me it is also about a respect for history.

Any car regardless of engine size, what color it is, how many doors it has, etc., if it has made it 50 years or so without any major modifications, it is a beautiful thing.

So for my cars, three meet that category, one 318 & two with 383 2 barrels. I have no plans to modify them, just preserve, drive & enjoy.

Once modified, the history is altered.

It would be very cool to see your car at Carlisle next summer, I bet it would grab a lot of attention.

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2017, 10:38:17 AM »

If your car came with that 318ci motor and still has that same 318ci and it does what you want it to do, why would you want to transplant a 383ci?
In it's forty seven years of life, it's mostly original so far, not everybody can say that.

 
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2017, 10:50:16 AM »


It would be very cool to see your car at Carlisle next summer, I bet it would grab a lot of attention.


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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2017, 11:03:21 AM »

It depends on what you want from your car.. I like'em stock, modified, and some wherein between.. I want to drive my car and not have a trailer queen.. I love getting in my 2017 car and hitting a button and the car starts and drives away with no issue, that it can handle twisty roads with a smile on my face.. I want some of that with my 1970 Car..

Your car your choice.. A cool mod that would be easy to do on your car and make it drive able and it could look really stock.. 5.9l Magnum engine and trans out of a Durango or truck.. Keep the O.E. Stuff in the garage..
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2018, 02:58:11 PM »

It is all in what YOU want to do! I swapped the toasted original 318/904 transmission out in my car for a 383/727 and never looked back! Been happy ever since! In my part of the country folks will walk past a 318 (dime a dozen) any day of the week, but will stop every time to check out that BIG BLOCK! Like Barrett-Jackson says... no harm, no foul! Mainly do what you want to do, and be happy!!! If you do swap, I would probably suggest to just keep that original engine somewhere if it is good, and you will have the best of both worlds. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2018, 06:33:14 AM »

  My charger 500 is a factory 383 HP, and I even have the numbers matching engine. However, I am building a 493 w/A 6 pack. The trick is to make it look factory stock, but modify to your specific tastes. For ex... stock valve cover, air cleaner, or using factory manifolds over headers. People will often let you know about all that horsepower you are leaving on the table because of it. Big deal.... someone is always faster. My first choice would have been to transplant a 472 Hemi, but I just don't have that kind of coin. The 6 pack setup, while common at major car shows, is an attention grabber locally.

  The point is, if you are keeping the car, build it the first time according to your dreams. Keep the original drivetrain, but enjoy your car your way.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2018, 02:43:51 PM »

All up to you-- mine had a mismatched 360 in it ( was a factory 318 car ) I've modified it heavily--and put in a 440 --
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