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Title: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: 70Charger500 on March 19, 2012, 03:17:22 PM
Well, as everyone on here knows the original jacks for our Chargers are rare, and usually somewhat expensive.

I haven't ever come across a great deal on one, so I thought I would try a different approach.

I figure I am never going to use the original style jack, but I did want something that would look at home in the trunk of my Charger when I open it at a show, or even just to show my buddies etc.

I started with a common B-body style jack I had. I studied pictures of Charger jacks for quite a while. BananaDan even sent me a link over at DC.com where someone was sort of attempting the same thing.

This is that thread http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,88952.0.html (http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,88952.0.html)

I especially benefitted from this series of pictures from Bill Allphin

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88952.0;attach=168449;image)

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88952.0;attach=168450;image)

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88952.0;attach=168451;image)

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88952.0;attach=168452;image)

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88952.0;attach=168453;image)


To be continued...


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: 70Charger500 on March 19, 2012, 03:20:41 PM
To adapt the jack I made a set of cardboard templates to approximate the shape of the original jack.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7061/6997676079_e10171d5a5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6997676079/)
100_3458 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6997676079/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

I looked in my truck parts boxes and found the brake pedal mentioned in the thread.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7058/6898912347_97ac147a06_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6898912347/)
100_3373 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6898912347/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

 It was similar, but different enough that I put it in my son's forge flattened it out, and made a new shape entirely. Then I cut it to length, dilled holes etc.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7109/6851538496_9b51452439_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851538496/)
100_3450 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851538496/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7095/6997665167_fb52e6e08e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6997665167/)
100_3451 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6997665167/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

Using the cardboard templates I traced the pattern and cut it out of some steel and folded them to suit the purpose.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7129/6997661579_6caf426b40_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6997661579/)
100_3449 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6997661579/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7186/6851534820_e3c6d64c7c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851534820/)
100_3448 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851534820/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

To make this piece fit required cutting up the jack itself a bit here and there.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7232/6851545806_c20e74909e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851545806/)
100_3455 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851545806/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7125/6851544000_2aea8f23ca_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851544000/)
100_3454 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851544000/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

Then it was time to join the new pieces to the jack.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7112/6851549412_35fab221e1_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851549412/)
100_3457 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851549412/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

Using washers as I plug welded the pieces together I tried to approximate the heads of the pins that go through the jack.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7140/6997677667_95713c4f5a_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6997677667/)
100_3459 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6997677667/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

to be continued...


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: 70Charger500 on March 19, 2012, 03:22:03 PM
Then it was finally time to attach the lifting saddle

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7078/6851557292_32ec4e3541_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851557292/)
100_3462 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851557292/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/6997683793_7c66d6cb1d_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6997683793/)
100_3463 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6997683793/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7242/6851560676_fbe9e7ab16_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851560676/)
100_3464 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16443100@N03/6851560676/) by Tolley's Charger (http://www.flickr.com/people/16443100@N03/), on Flickr

I still need to blast and paint the jack. It still goes up and down as good as ever, I think it will do what I had hoped it would, and so far I am happy with the results. Especially the fact that other than some time, and mig wire, I have $0 invested thus far.

What do you guys think? :confused:

Tolley


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: BananaDan on March 19, 2012, 03:26:07 PM
Nice work Tolley!  I'm looking forward to seeing it painted.   :popcorn:


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: 70Charger2006 on March 19, 2012, 07:06:15 PM
I'll take one! Lol

Looks good. Great idea


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: Avolow on March 19, 2012, 07:42:31 PM
Now that is cool!  I bet you could probably get a fair amount of car money selling those as non functional replicas for a decent price on eBay too.  Of course that would mean disabling them somehow for liability reasons.

 :beer: :rock:

Avolow.


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: pentastar426 on March 20, 2012, 07:06:27 PM
Tolley, you the Man! Can you send me your completed one so I can, uh, copy it? Make sure it is painted and ready to install :laugh:


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: ICON 70 on April 12, 2012, 09:16:39 PM
Hey Tolley,

what type of grey did you use for the jack.  isn't the post more of a silver?

what color black for the handle?

Scott


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: 70Charger500 on April 12, 2012, 10:37:30 PM
Scott, you are correct, the post is silver. I have not painted it yet. I am waiting to blast it.

I'll add some pics when it is done though. :thumbs up:

Tolley



Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: Dodge Don on April 13, 2012, 05:54:12 AM
As the young 'uns say....you got mad skills. Impressive.


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: BananaDan on April 13, 2012, 06:54:31 PM
As the young 'uns say....you got mad skills yo. Impressive.

Almost.  You missed a yo in there.   :laugh:


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: ICON 70 on April 15, 2012, 09:23:18 PM
Tolley are you taking apart the base, or just leaving it intact?


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: A383Wing on April 15, 2012, 10:34:54 PM
I assume you will not be using this to jack up yer car?

I'm not knocking yer work, it looks great for show purpose, but I won't even use my original on my car..it don't look safe to me

Bryan  (just sayin')


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: BananaDan on April 15, 2012, 11:16:44 PM
First post, third sentence.  :nana:


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: A383Wing on April 15, 2012, 11:19:10 PM
First post, third sentence.  :nana:

OK..I sit corrected...see what these pain meds are doing to me?

Bryan   


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: 70Charger500 on April 15, 2012, 11:32:41 PM
First post, third sentence.  :nana:

OK..I sit corrected...see what these pain meds are doing to me?

Bryan   

No problemo Bryan, I am glad you were ready to talk me out of it if I were going to try...

 :rock:

Tolley


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: BSchultz on April 16, 2012, 08:12:45 PM
Any chance you wanna make a few of these?  I'm definitely interested in one...and....I have access to a laser and CNC press breaks....

Let me know what you think.

Brian


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: 70Charger500 on April 16, 2012, 11:36:47 PM
Any chance you wanna make a few of these?  I'm definitely interested in one...and....I have access to a laser and CNC press breaks....

Let me know what you think.

Brian

Brian, that may be a really good idea that could help some guys out. Probably though you should start by getting a hold of a real one and taking your measurements etc. All I ever had were the pictures I posted, I've never actually handled an authentic one myself. The jacks like I used aren't that difficult to come by, so maybe you could offer a kit with all the parts so the individual could assemble it using their own jack. (with all warnings, and waiver stuff I guess).

Sounds like you  may have a winner though!  :thumbs up:

Tolley


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: BSchultz on April 17, 2012, 12:34:43 PM
Any chance you wanna make a few of these?  I'm definitely interested in one...and....I have access to a laser and CNC press breaks....

Let me know what you think.

Brian

Brian, that may be a really good idea that could help some guys out. Probably though you should start by getting a hold of a real one and taking your measurements etc. All I ever had were the pictures I posted, I've never actually handled an authentic one myself. The jacks like I used aren't that difficult to come by, so maybe you could offer a kit with all the parts so the individual could assemble it using their own jack. (with all warnings, and waiver stuff I guess).

Sounds like you  may have a winner though!  :thumbs up:

Tolley

Thanks for the advice Tolley.  I wasn't trying to take it outta your hands, just thought it may be a way to save a few people a little money.


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: 70Charger500 on April 17, 2012, 01:52:39 PM
Thanks for the advice Tolley.  I wasn't trying to take it outta your hands, just thought it may be a way to save a few people a little money.

No problem! It sounds like you might be the guy to go somewhere with the idea, hope it works out!
 :thumbs up:
Tolley


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: Plasma Nut on April 19, 2012, 03:56:41 PM
Great work Tolley. a true craftsmen  :clap:


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: A383Wing on April 22, 2012, 09:21:25 PM
Hey Tolley....what did you use for the piece that the bumper sits on? I was digging through garage today and found a jack that I could modify for making a jack...I can't find the post on the other site as well....

I remember something about a Dodge truck brake pedal....

I would like to find one and try and make a jack

Bryan  (I already have my jack, was just gonna play with making another)


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: A383Wing on April 22, 2012, 09:36:49 PM
OK...found the original poster on the "other" site...sent him an email requesting a brake pedal

Bryan... (sorry to all who had to read my post.... :popcorn: )


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: 70Charger500 on April 22, 2012, 10:44:32 PM
Bryan, it may be that one of our own here (BSchultz) will be recreating the parts needed to make this mod a bit easier, and cleaner. If you're not in a hurry, that may become an option. :two cents:

Tolley


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: A383Wing on April 22, 2012, 10:48:06 PM
I sent Stu a PM on the other site about the brake pedal....I'm in no hurry, I'm too damn old and tired to hurry anymore...it seems the faster I go, the behinder I get at times

Bryan


Title: Re: Charger Jack simulation
Post by: euro500 on July 07, 2012, 03:14:45 PM
Great thread Tolley
Now that you mention it I have to check my car to see which jack I have...  :confused: